Posts by Half banana

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“Winning the Battle for Your Mind”

by SAHS in

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friends

“winning the battle for your mind.” that is the title of an article in the latest watchtower magazine, of july 2017, pages 27-30. wow, how ironic!

here is the direct link:.

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2017488.

Half banana

The irony of a description of propaganda from the arch propagandists the JW Org!

And they are right of course in describing it, butter wouldn't melt in their mouths. Quote a celebrated intellectual to make out you are on his side and not afraid of argument. Then, descending into classic WT rhetoric, tell them that to listen to others who are outside of the JW org, is to be deceived by Satan.

For you simpletons life is reduced to black and white reasoning. If you only would wake up and listen to your vile hypocrisy! How can anyone expect to learn anything from a teaching organisation which does not believe in a critical analysis of ideas?

Oh! how shallow you are JW Org, how shameful you are in your transparent, self praising and repetitive propaganda. When will you acknowledge that you are not God's channel, that 1914 is a ploy to appear to have had divine attention? Your literature is the most distributed and most meaningless and least read material ever produced in the world history of printing.

Please JW org, come clean and admit it now that you are running a doomsday scam and hurting people with your propaganda lies.

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The fate of all of Jehovah's Witnesses

by Half banana in

i have just posted elsewhere that there is no destiny for a jw other than to be deluded or disappointed, perhaps deluded or disillusioned would be a better expression.

there is no such thing as armageddon, no such thing as everlasting life, paradise is a mirage of wish fulfillment.. a friend of mine who is nominally a jw but who does not believe a word of it, told me about the dying words of another friend's father.

this man had been a lifelong stalwart jw and reared an exemplary jw dynasty but as he died he told his super zealous son that it (the jw religion) has got it all wrong.. ok, it's a social club for the majority of witnesses and an identity for those without self worth or clear goals in life, they will swallow the inconsistencies and biblical absurdities because it is in their community interests to conform.

Half banana

Cold steel, I suggest that prophecy is an idiot's game. It is part of the great spiritual con trick, a wrong idea embedded in the human cultural consciousness from time immemorial. It's time to question such primitive notions. Prophecy is a tool of religious mind control.

Yes EverApostate, what a devastating waste of human time and talent courtesy of the Watchtower-JW-Org! Millions deceived out of a proper life by them and dying unrewarded while the Org gets richer and richer.

Spiral, joining JWs is a very poor bet; how many of the what! 20 million JWs who have ever lived, have been given a reward as promised by the Org? The only winnings have been 20 million booby prizes.

It must be happening more and more that JWs are waking up to the reality that they have been in an awful cult. They have had their lives stolen from them because of their own bad decision to become (or remain) a member.

Imagine, (if you haven't already experienced it yourself) the tragedy of a middle aged or old JW upon awakening, feels condemned to putting on the appearance of being a believer for the sake of family, for rest of his or her life! It takes a lot of courage to leave the cult.

We only get one life and if you're not careful, Jehovah's Witnesses are out to steal it!

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Do girls become angels?

by TheWonderofYou in

in this video montage from paul leonhart and eden channel a jw girl in hospital hopes to become once an "angel" or something similar at 1:06, if she only believes in jehovah.

perhaps this is a reference also to the bloodissue and remaining loyal.. the comment states that 20 million persons are no glorifing god and awaiting a "great tribulation" (in big letters).

what a channel!

Half banana

Mio Dio! A truly nauseating mix of religious sentiment, emotion and apocalyptic hype. There is no anchorage in reality here!

I'm sure most girls would prefer to be girls rather than angels and that the "great tribulation" which JWs are predicting, will only be visited upon themselves................

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How Knowledge is Dissipated in Talks

by Cold Steel in

londo111 » each congregation has a “talk coordinator”.

talk coordinators will coordinate with other talk coordinators in order to find speakers to give the public talk on sunday.

typically, they come from the general area: the circuit or a nearby circuit.

Half banana

The way the JW org works is to demand and expect total obedience to the cult masters.

It is not about truth or doctrine, the Org (like some other religions) is a mere business which goes about milking the gullible for their loyalty to the cult brand.This consists of a set of religious hypotheses invented by the governing body and presented as the exclusive set of divine truths-- but in reality doctrine is only a side show to the demand for brand loyalty.

All cult members are indoctrinated to have the highest expectation of complete conformity, this is the magic ingredient for a cult; everyone believing the same doctrine both as a prized mark of membership and as an (apparent) visible symbol of divine blessing. Therefore cult members are always alarmed at the smallest deviation from cult orthodoxy, the cult leaders however when challenged, become incandescent!

Were differing views permitted in the kh's the whole house of cards would instantly fall hence the perpetual propaganda to stave off real learning and making the case for believing only in the JW leadership. They must of course present their role as the only mediation between God and men, even if they publish otherwise.

Heresy then is the scourge of all cults!

Real knowledge thrives on argument and evidence. . . and cults thrive on ignorance and obedience.

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The fate of all of Jehovah's Witnesses

by Half banana in

i have just posted elsewhere that there is no destiny for a jw other than to be deluded or disappointed, perhaps deluded or disillusioned would be a better expression.

there is no such thing as armageddon, no such thing as everlasting life, paradise is a mirage of wish fulfillment.. a friend of mine who is nominally a jw but who does not believe a word of it, told me about the dying words of another friend's father.

this man had been a lifelong stalwart jw and reared an exemplary jw dynasty but as he died he told his super zealous son that it (the jw religion) has got it all wrong.. ok, it's a social club for the majority of witnesses and an identity for those without self worth or clear goals in life, they will swallow the inconsistencies and biblical absurdities because it is in their community interests to conform.

Half banana

I have just posted elsewhere that there is no destiny for a JW other than to be deluded or disappointed, perhaps deluded or disillusioned would be a better expression. There is no such thing as Armageddon, no such thing as everlasting life, paradise is a mirage of wish fulfillment.

A friend of mine who is nominally a JW but who does not believe a word of it, told me about the dying words of another friend's father. This man had been a lifelong stalwart JW and reared an exemplary JW dynasty but as he died he told his super zealous son that it (the JW religion) has got it all wrong.

Ok, it's a social club for the majority of witnesses and an identity for those without self worth or clear goals in life, they will swallow the inconsistencies and Biblical absurdities because it is in their community interests to conform. Forget the lack of logic; an identity and friends are more important.

At the end of our own lives we might look back over what we did; who is going to say that the best thing they ever did was to join the JW org? Surely the only beneficiaries of the cult are its leaders?

Is it true then that the only destiny of all JWs is either delusion or disillusionment?

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If a person is transgender and gets saved what will they go to heaven as?

by Nikorasu95 in

jw
friends

i know this is a stupid question because the answer is obvious, but if a person was born a male and gets transgender surgery to turn into female will that person go to heaven as a male or female if they died saved?

i think they will go to heaven with the gender they were born with.

Half banana

Heaven is comprised of the neuter gender.

I'd like to learn of your evidence for this Tiki.....

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If a person is transgender and gets saved what will they go to heaven as?

by Nikorasu95 in

jw
friends

i know this is a stupid question because the answer is obvious, but if a person was born a male and gets transgender surgery to turn into female will that person go to heaven as a male or female if they died saved?

i think they will go to heaven with the gender they were born with.

Half banana

Nobody goes to heaven....all organisms grow old and die. (except for the most courageous and outstanding hamsters who go to a spiritual abode to live forever in Valhalla with the hamster pantheon)

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48% Capacity at Kingdom Halls - A post on reddit

by berrygerry in

there was a letter read this week, followed by a talk about all the changes that are coming in the next couple of months regarding merging congregations in the area (va/md/dc) - the letter said that the kh's in the area are only being filled to 48% capacity.

this was music to my ears as i have noticed the decline in attendance in all the neighboring congregations.

they will sell some kingdom halls and merge some congregations.

Half banana

Wondrous shrinkage is now taking place!

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Oh wow...now I have seen everything! "Junior Pioneer"??

by stuckinarut2 in

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Half banana

Money!

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Convention Horror Video for J.W.'s Young Children

by The Searcher in

in part 3 of remember the wife of lot, prepubescent j.w.

kids are going to be shown something which demonstrates that the org condones watching disturbing horror content.

the "direction" the wtbts is taking is breathtaking.

Half banana

Stephane and Stuck, it is an interesting matter, that of working hard. I was on a committee meeting last night with pillars of society (not the WT!) professional folk, financiers, administrators an ambassador, etc. These people are extremely hard working but happy and balanced. They don't waste time on Armageddon or niceties of Bible interpretation. They think at twice the speed of normal people and five times the speed of JWs. They get things done and they take long holidays.

However to be a JW normally prevents a person from enjoying a productive and useful life. At every corner in life a JW has to evaluate the daft thinking of his or her favoured cult and worry over the next move whether their leaders will permit it or not. Talk about self sacrifice--it is stultifying!

JWs are not usually motivated to be hard working except in slavery to their cult masters. They have been led to put all of their emotional 'eggs' into one useless Watchtower basket. Working for the WT will leave every last individual eventually being either deluded or disappointed, there is no other destiny for a J W. . .

To be a JW is to deny the pleasure of working hard and enjoying the benefits of your own work-- as the Bible recommends! (Eccles 3;22)